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Chap. 22 - Owl Post Again

 
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 19, 2007 4:03 pm    Post subject: Chap. 22 - Owl Post Again Reply with quote

Hermione and Harry rush back just in time to see Dumbledore closing them into the hospital wing. He quickly puts them back in bed before anyone notices they were gone. Suddenly, they hear Snape storming toward them, angry that Sirius Black has escaped and he’s convinced that Harry had something to do with it. It’s the end of term, and Harry finds out that Snape let it slip that Lupin is a werewolf, and he has therefore resigned. Harry wants him to stay, but Lupin insists on leaving, but not before giving him back his invisibility cloak and the Marauder’s Map. Dumbledore comes to say goodbye as well, and Harry gets a chance to tell him about Professor Trelawney’s prediction, in which Dumbledore says brings her count up to two. On the train ride home, Harry gets a letter from Sirius, who says he is safe and who also gives him permission to visit Hogsmeade the next year. This, coupled with the fact that Ron promises to bring him to the Quidditch World Cup over the summer, makes him happy, even though he’s going back home to the Dursley’s again. (Oh, and Ron gets an owl!)

Discussion Topics/Questions:
1. Again, something we kind of touched on earlier, but it’s obvious here that Snape isn’t aware of Hermione’s Time Turner. Wouldn’t it seem wise to have all the teachers know about it?

2. Dumbledore tells Harry that Peter now owes Harry a life-debt. Do you think this will happen in the DH? How?

3. Overall, what are your final thoughts and reactions on this book?

4. What is your favorite quote from this chapter?
(“You know, Harry, in a way, you did see your father last night….. You found him inside yourself.” – Dumbledore)


Please also post your own discussion topics, questions and thoughts from this chapter! My questions are merely here to help start discussions.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 24, 2007 8:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

1. Again, something we kind of touched on earlier, but it’s obvious here that Snape isn’t aware of Hermione’s Time Turner. Wouldn’t it seem wise to have all the teachers know about it?

I think Snape did know about the Time Turner. Maybe not all of the teachers knew about it but atleast the Heads of Houses and the Headmaster would have to know. Hermione said the McGonagall had to write a lot of letters for her to get one and maybe the Heads of Houses had to confirm Hermione's abilites. And although Snape might not have liked her, he couldn't deny that she was gifted. It would't have been wise to have all of the teachers know. If two teachers were talking about a third year who had a Time Turner and a student over heard them, it would've been all over the school.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 24, 2007 8:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

1. Again, something we kind of touched on earlier, but it’s obvious here that Snape isn’t aware of Hermione’s Time Turner. Wouldn’t it seem wise to have all the teachers know about it?

I don't think that they would want all the teachers to know. It would influence how they treateed her and her homework load.

2. Dumbledore tells Harry that Peter now owes Harry a life-debt. Do you think this will happen in the DH? How?

Yes, I think that at some point that and Lily's eyes staring out of Harry's face will save him. I think Peter had a crush on Lily.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 25, 2007 6:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sirius says that he had the gold taken from his vault to get Harry’s firebolt. Wouldn’t the goblins, or the ministry for that matter, think it odd that someone (Crookshanks, Harry, anyone) was accessing Sirius Black’s vault?

Also, I think Peter mentioned it in the last chapter, and then now Dumbledore says it: That they don't think James would have wanted Peter killed. Do you think this is true too?
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 25, 2007 6:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think Lily would not have wanted Peter killed, therefore neither would James.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 26, 2007 6:59 am    Post subject: Re: Chap. 22 - Owl Post Again Reply with quote

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1. Again, something we kind of touched on earlier, but it’s obvious here that Snape isn’t aware of Hermione’s Time Turner. Wouldn’t it seem wise to have all the teachers know about it?

I think McGonagall and Dumbledore knowing was a necessity (her head of house, and the headmaster). As for the other teachers... I don't think they knew, or really needed to. I can see for emergency purposes, at least, but not having Snape know proved to be a good choice for this point in the story.

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2. Dumbledore tells Harry that Peter now owes Harry a life-debt. Do you think this will happen in the DH? How?

I was hoping that would appear in HBP, but now it needs to appear in DH. I can't imagine how, though... JKR took the time to have Dumbledore explain the debt. If she left it unresolved, the story would be... incomplete, in a sense. I must say that I am eager to see how it works out...

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Sirius says that he had the gold taken from his vault to get Harry’s firebolt. Wouldn’t the goblins, or the ministry for that matter, think it odd that someone (Crookshanks, Harry, anyone) was accessing Sirius Black’s vault?

The unexplainable... Confused Surely their security measures are better than that... Perhaps they subjected crookshanks to harmless spells for security (similar to how they forced Peter to change back from his animagi form)?

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Also, I think Peter mentioned it in the last chapter, and then now Dumbledore says it: That they don't think James would have wanted Peter killed. Do you think this is true too?

James and Lily weren't ruthless... they would've shown mercy. However, I am more curious of Harry's change of attitude. He was ready to kill (or at least, very badly injure) Sirius for the very thing that Peter did, yet he didn't allow Peter to die for it. He said that Peter should go to the dementors... leading me to question his idea on them as well. He had stated to Lupin earlier in the book that some people do deserve to have thier soul sucked out, reflecting on his parent's death. The person he accused changed, but his principle apparently didn't...

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Wouldn't it have been anti-climatic if Harry had known the Summoning charm (which he actually learns later in the next book)? He could've "Summoned" Peter to him...

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 26, 2007 12:53 pm    Post subject: Re: Chap. 22 - Owl Post Again Reply with quote

Azul wrote:
Wouldn't it have been anti-climatic if Harry had known the Summoning charm (which he actually learns later in the next book)? He could've "Summoned" Peter to him...

"Accio Peter!" Laughing
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